[ I have written a series of posts about the "pay the storm" bugaboos. I call it "The Stormpuke--Stormpay Story: Getting to the Heart of the Matter in Posts" . You can get it here. This nightmare is ongoing with no end in site. ]
I was going to have a nice posting of all sorts of humorous mockery the people have come up with to poke fun out of stormpuke, but instead, that posting has to be put aside after hearing about the latest developments in nightmare land. Let me start by saying that some disgruntled workers of stormpay are cracking their silence about stormpay filing for bankruptcy. According to "them" stormpay had planned from last year to file for bankruptcy after some people started digging around for information as to WHERE overseas the whole operation was running from. If that isn't disturbing enough, now I am being told that the forums on the stormpay site have been taken down after someone posted the following comment in their forum threads:
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I posted a question in the NetIBA section of this forum asking about the alleged relationship between NetIBA and Stormpay. This was a legitimate question that a potential Stormpay referral had and he was concerned about rumours he had heard that suggested they were both the same company. Obviously he did not want to sign up to Stormpay and NetIBA if NetIBA was not a third party verification system as stated by Stormpay.
My post was deleted and my Stormpay forum account closed with no warning and no contact from the forum admin.
I feel this was a legitimate question that was asked in a polite way and it could have been answered by the site admin to clear up any confusion over this issue. Instead it seems that the response is simply to censor any unanswered questions that potential Stormpay referrals might have. My referral is now no longer interested in using Stormpay for his business.
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Since I am on the topic of forums, it was discovered earlier today that the government had hacked the 12dailypro site and forum and they are monitoring what everyone has been saying about stormpuke and the games the "authorities" are playing against the public. Where is the "former" owner of 12dailypro? The following posting that comes from newsclick blog says all that everyone should know about our "anti-basic human rights" government:
source: http://newclicksinfo.blogspot.com/
To those watching for a comment from me on the 12dp forum regarding today's SEC press release and the cooresponding filing, there will be none there.
The website is to now be under the control of the SEC and thus I am unable to post anything on the site without approval.
I hope to have my attorneys agree to the release of a statement within the next day or so which will clarify our position, dispel the inaccuracies in the filing and explain why we reached an agreement with the SEC that was in the best interest of members, despite such inaccuracies.
Keep in mind that the SEC never interviewed us, never talked with us, never examined our data, never looked at our bank accounts, and never examined our books before placing this filing. All information came from outside sources, primarily StormPay and an ex-convict seeking media exposure.
Before reaching the agreement, my attorneys provided documentation to the SEC in the form of bank records and EMO records showing the funds withrawn from StormPay were utilized for business purposes, with more than 70% used to fund LifeClicks' EMO account. They were also provided documentation that showed that StormPay does not have a merchant account option and that when you add a bank account to your SP account, their terms state that the name of th bank account must match the individual name on the StormPay account. We were following the StormPay TOS. The SEC omitted these things in the press release, I would assume because it would weaken their case for the original filing.
Regardless, we are and will continue cooperating with the SEC in whatever way they require of us.
end of source: http://newclicksinfo.blogspot.com/
For a government that touts their country citizens are free to speak their minds, their actions speak differently from their cheap, sugarcoated words. And for a government to tout that they disclose everything to the public, their secret document filings also speak differently from the lies they spew out publically. Do we need to wonder why the government doesn't want people to see the following court filing against 12daily pro:
****COURT DOCKET****
COURT DOCKET:
SEC v. Johnson et al
(PLAx), DISCOVERY, MANADR
U.S. District Court
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA (Western Division - Los Angeles)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:06-cv-01018-NM-PLA
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Johnson et al
Assigned to: Judge Nora M. Manella
Referred to: Magistrate Judge Paul L. Abrams
Cause: 15:0078m(a) Securities Exchange Act
Date Filed: 02/21/2006
Jury Demand: None
Nature of Suit: 850 Securities/Commodities
Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Plaintiff
Plaintiff
Securities and Exchange Commission represented by David J Van Havermaat
Securities and Exchange Commission
5670 Wilshire Boulevard, 11th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90036-3648
323-965-3994
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Kelly Curtis Bowers
SEC - Securities and Exchange Commission
5670 Wilshire Boulevard, 11th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90036-3648
323-965-3998
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Michael A Piazza
Securities and Exchange Commission
5670 Wilshire Boulevard, 11th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90036-3648
323-965-3908
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Peter F Del Greco
SEC - Securities and Exchange Commission
5670 Wilshire Boulevard, 11th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90036-3648
323-965-3892
Email: [email protected]
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
V.
Defendant
Charis Johnson
Defendant
LifeClicks LLC
Defendant
12daily Pro
Date Filed # Docket Text
02/21/2006 1 COMPLAINT against Defendants Charis Johnson, LifeClicks LLC, 12daily Pro. (Filing fee $ 250 PAID), filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission.(jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 20 DAY Summons Issued re Complaint - (Discovery)[1] as to Defendants Charis Johnson, LifeClicks LLC, 12daily Pro. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 2 CERTIFICATION AND NOTICE of Interested Parties filed by Plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 3 NOTICE TO PARTIES OF ADR PILOT PROGRAM filed.(jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 FAX number for Attorneys Kelly Curtis Bowers, Peter F Del Greco, Michael A Piazza, David J Van Havermaat is 323-965-3908. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 4 EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. Lodged Proposed Order. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 5 MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES in Support of EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver [4] filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 6 DECLARATION of PETER F. DEL GRECO in support of EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver [4] filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 7 RECOMMENDATION by Plaintiff that Thomas F. Lennon Inc be Appointed Receiver filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission. (jp, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 PLACED IN FILE - NOT USED re proposed temporary restraining order and orders: (1) freezing assets; (2) requiring accounting; (3) prohibiting the destruction of documents; (4) expediting discovery; (5) appointing a temporary receiver; and order to show cause re preliminary injunction and appointment of a permanent receiver submitted by plainitff Securities and Exchange Commission. (pbap, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
02/21/2006 8 MINUTES OF IN CHAMBERS ORDER by Judge Nora M. Manella DENYING Without Prejudice Plaintiff's EX PARTE APPLICATION for Temporary Restraining Order, and Orders: (1) Freezing Assets; (2) Requiring Accountings; (3) Prohibiting the Destruction of Documents; (4) Expediting Discovery; (5) Appointing a Temporary Receiver, and Order to Show Cause regarding Preliminary Injunction and Appointment of a Permanent Receiver filed by plaintiff Securities and Exchange Commission [4]. The SEC may refile its application with declaration setting forth a factual basis for its claim that notice should not be required, may request a temporary restraining order with notice, and/or may move for a preliminary injunction. Court Reporter: n/a. (pbap, ) (Entered: 02/27/2006)
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To make the nightmare worse, did you know that it's illegal to send or receive money without getting permission [via a license] from the government? Doesn't matter if you have a business or not. Doesn't matter even if you want to send money to a friend or even family that lives in state or out of state. This comes from a comment I found at an anti-stormpay forum:
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I don't know for sure if this means anything or not - BUT - many states require a license to operate as a Money Transmitter if a person transmits money either into or out of the state. I find it somewhat interesting that in every state's records I have been able to access so far, PayPal is listed as a licensee and StormPay IS NOT. Who knows, this may or may not mean a thing....
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Is this what the people on wall street meant when they said that the American economy would come crashing down? Is this what they were trying to tell the public without having their butts arrested and silenced from the new world order freaks at the white house capital? Let's look at another comment someone made about this "revelation":
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I think we all owe StormPay a debt of gratitude, for protecting our interests in this mess! They stopped most autosurfs dead in their tracks, and have held our money for safekeeping. I for one sleep better at night knowing that StormPay is looking out for me. Somehow thanks don’t seem to be enough. So I have an idea of how to help them. It would appear that in many states that StormPay forgot to register as a money transmitter. Now I’m sure they have been so busy protecting us, that this may have just slipped their minds.
So to thank them properly I suggest you call your state agency that regulates money transmitters, and ask them to give StormPay a gentle reminder of this oversight. Now mind you, each state is different, and some have no regulations at all, but for each state that does, besides Tennessee, helping StormPay just seems to be the right thing to do. Below is a starting point for all states that regulate, this should help you research laws pertaining to this. First see if their registered, then see if they have to be. Thirdly contact the agency in charge and explain your concern for this fine company.
AZ … http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ArizonaRevise...tes.asp?Title=6
CO… http://www.dora.state.co.us/banking/rules®..7customernotice
CT… http://www.ct.gov/dob/cwp/view.asp?a=2233&...dobNAV_GID=1663
DC… http://dbfi.dc.gov/dbfi/cwp/view,a,3,q,627...Nav,|31292|.asp
FL… http://www.flofr.com/licensing/licensing-i.htm
GA… http://www.ganet.org/dbf/pdfdoc/regmoney.pdf
ID… http://finance.idaho.gov/Statutes.aspx
IL… http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/adminc...05sections.html
IN… http://www.in.gov/dfi/education/MT.htm
IA… http://www.legis.state.ia.us/IACODE/1999SU...MENT/529/1.html
KA… http://www.osbckansas.org/ConsumerAssistan...ansmitters.html
KY… http://www.dfi.state.ky.us/
MD… http://www.dllr.state.md.us/finance/moneytranlic.htm
MA… http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=ocamodulechunk...clist&csid=Eoca
MI… http://www.michigan.gov/cis/0,1607,7-154-1...3257---,00.html
MN… http://www.state.mn.us/mn/externalDocs/Com...smitterAppl.pdf
MS… http://www.dbcf.state.ms.us/documents/cons...nce/soc_app.pdf
MO… http://www.missouri-finance.org/Consumer%2...29%20RSMo).aspx
NE… http://www.ndbf.org/soc/soclicensees.shtml
NV… http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-671.html
NJ… http://www.nmta.us/main/Docs%20Posted/NJ%2...of%209-7-05.pdf
NY… http://www.banking.state.ny.us/simoneyt.htm
NC… https://www.nccob.org/Online/MTS/MTSCompanyListing.aspx
ND… http://www.state.nd.us/dfi/regulate/reg/co...=&Submit=Search
OH… http://www.com.state.oh.us/dfi/pub/MT%20List%2005-10-05.htm
OK… http://www.state.ok.us/~osbd/Banks/Statutes/article21.htm
OR… http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/717.html
PA… http://www.banking.state.pa.us/Banking/Ban...ListResults.asp
PR… http://www.ocif.gobierno.pr/documents/cons/tm.swf
RI… http://www.dbr.state.ri.us/rules_regs/bank...ion%2098-14.pdf
SD… http://www.state.sd.us/drr2/forms/Banking/...Application.pdf
TX… http://www.banking.state.tx.us/SAUDITS/exhibitsmt.pdf
UT… http://www.dfi.state.ut.us/MonTrans.htm
VT… http://www.bishca.state.vt.us/BankingDiv/l..._bank_index.htm
VA… http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.ex...012000000000000
WA… https://fortress.wa.gov/dfi/licquery/dfi/li.../getresult.aspx
WV… http://www.wvdob.org/professionals/docs/Mo...icationForm.pdf
WI… http://www.wdfi.org/fi/lfs/licensee_lists/....asp?Browse=SOC
WY… http://audit.state.wy.us/Banking/MoneyTran...ransmitters.pdf
Other States have requirements…check them out and let me know. http://www.nmta.us/main/State-Related%20Sites.html
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Is a civil war developing in America? Yes. It already started in Utah when the state government over there started jailing people for speaking out against stormpuke. Many more people will be going to jail for speaking their minds. Many more businesses will crumble. More people will become victims. If people don't stand up for their right to free speech now, America is going to end and slavery is going to begin. It's GOING to happen THIS YEAR. This is the war the new world order always wanted. The war against christians. The war against freedom. The war against the most high god.
You are now forced to choose sides. Will you side with the new world order? Or will you side with the christians and shout in the name of freedom? If you've been reading my blogger [and not just only the posts about stormpuke], you know where I clearly stand. Against the new world order. Always have. Always will.
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